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A podcast for sourcing and negotiation

Off List

Read the paper before you sign it.

Four people who live inside enterprise software sourcing, talking trends, negotiations, and the deals that went wrong. Microsoft, SAP, Oracle, Broadcom, the whole vendor stack, taken apart for the people on the buying side. Weekly since May 2026.

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Ep 14August 7, 2026Show notes

Off the clock

The people behind the deals: interests, mentors, burnout, and why they stay.

The people behind the dealsThe mentors and moments thatBurnout, and the human costWhy they stay, and what they
Ep 13July 31, 2026Show notes

The renewal calendar

The boring system that decides every negotiation before it starts.

Notice dates versus renewalBuilding the calendar andEscalationThe ninety day runway
Ep 12July 24, 2026Show notes

Cloud commits: the hyperscaler trap

Sizing and renegotiating Azure, AWS, and Google commitments.

MACC, EDP, and committed useRight sizing a multi yearMarketplace private offersThe over commitment trap
Ep 11July 17, 2026Show notes

How to actually negotiate

The craft, start to finish, in one hour.

The anchor resetSilence and concessionThe give get menuReading the floor, and
Ep 10July 10, 2026Show notes

ServiceNow, Workday, and the platform fee

Where the seat money is quietly moving.

ServiceNow per employeeWorkday tenant and moduleThe platform fee shell gameMulti year caps and the fight
Ep 9July 3, 2026Show notes

The audit letter

The first forty eight hours after a vendor says compliance.

The first forty eight hoursAudit as a negotiation move,Keeping your own countThe house styles
Ep 8June 26, 2026Show notes

The seat that isn't a seat

AI add ons, consumption pricing, and the death of per seat.

Consumption pricing arrivesThe AI add on tax and theWhy per seat is dying, andEnterprise license agreement
Ep 7June 19, 2026Show notes

Broadcom took VMware. Now what?

Forced subscription migration and negotiating with no alternative.

The subscription only forcedCore count repricingYour real optionsFinding leverage when there
Ep 6June 12, 2026Show notes

Oracle comes calling

Audits, Java per employee, ULA exits, and the LMS review.

The Oracle audit playbook,Java SE per employeeExiting a ULA without settingOCI commitment pressure and
Ep 5June 5, 2026Show notes

The mistakes we all made

The five errors that cost every sourcing pro real money once.

Signing without reading, andMissing the notice windowBuying projected headcountWinning the price and losing
Ep 4May 29, 2026Show notes

Thirty vendors, one quarter

Negotiating a whole renewal book when you are one person.

TriageTiering the bookThe co term playTemplated versus bespoke, and
Ep 3May 22, 2026Listen · 19 min

RISE with SAP, and whether to

The 2027 deadline, the padded user count, and the document charge nobody measures.

The four cost lines in oneThe 2027 mainstream and 2030The FUE metric, padded 20 toDigital Access documents
Ep 2May 15, 2026Listen · 24 min

The Microsoft EA, decoded

The EA is being pulled from the mid market, E7 arrived, and the discount matters least.

The EA pulled from the midVolume levels A to D removedE7, the $99 Frontier Suite,The Copilot attach and the
Ep 1May 8, 2026Listen · 53 min

Scar tissue

The launch. Everyone introduces themselves and the deal that left a mark.

IntroductionsThe deals that went wrong,What is changing at theThe quick four
The table
bella, host portrait

Bella

Host and moderator. Eight years in sourcing before the microphone. Keeps time, pulls threads, lands the plane.

roger, host portrait

Roger

The consultant. Negotiates software deals for clients, thirty to forty a year. Speaks in market patterns.

bill, host portrait

Bill

Thirty years running IT sourcing at a global manufacturer. The calendar is the strategy. Boring wins.

laura, host portrait

Laura

Sourcing lead at one of the country's biggest retailers. Early adopter, allergic to vendor theater.

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About this program. Off List is an AI produced podcast. Every voice you hear is a synthetic AI model, not a real person, and the hosts, their employers, and the stories they tell are illustrative composites created for teaching. Episodes are for educational and informational purposes only and are not legal, financial, or professional advice. Verify any figure against your own contracts and a qualified advisor before you act on it.