Four people who live inside enterprise software sourcing, talking trends, negotiations, and the deals that went wrong. Microsoft, SAP, Oracle, Broadcom, the whole vendor stack, taken apart for the people on the buying side. Weekly since May 2026.
No vendors this week. The panel steps back from the table to talk about the people doing the work: what they do when they are not negotiating, the mentors and moments that shaped them, the human cost of a job that is always someone else's deadline, and why they stay in a profession nobody thanks.
See the episodeThe people behind the deals: interests, mentors, burnout, and why they stay.
The boring system that decides every negotiation before it starts.
Sizing and renegotiating Azure, AWS, and Google commitments.
The craft, start to finish, in one hour.
Where the seat money is quietly moving.
The first forty eight hours after a vendor says compliance.
AI add ons, consumption pricing, and the death of per seat.
Forced subscription migration and negotiating with no alternative.
Audits, Java per employee, ULA exits, and the LMS review.
The five errors that cost every sourcing pro real money once.
Negotiating a whole renewal book when you are one person.
The 2027 deadline, the padded user count, and the document charge nobody measures.
The EA is being pulled from the mid market, E7 arrived, and the discount matters least.
The launch. Everyone introduces themselves and the deal that left a mark.

Host and moderator. Eight years in sourcing before the microphone. Keeps time, pulls threads, lands the plane.

The consultant. Negotiates software deals for clients, thirty to forty a year. Speaks in market patterns.

Thirty years running IT sourcing at a global manufacturer. The calendar is the strategy. Boring wins.

Sourcing lead at one of the country's biggest retailers. Early adopter, allergic to vendor theater.
About this program. Off List is an AI produced podcast. Every voice you hear is a synthetic AI model, not a real person, and the hosts, their employers, and the stories they tell are illustrative composites created for teaching. Episodes are for educational and informational purposes only and are not legal, financial, or professional advice. Verify any figure against your own contracts and a qualified advisor before you act on it.